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		<title>By: Toes4lyfe1</title>
		<link>http://www.journeyswithautism.com/2009/05/06/every-aspie-is-a-working-aspie/comment-page-1/#comment-105890</link>
		<dc:creator>Toes4lyfe1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 09:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Male with no problem driving, but can&#039;t think or drive with music, talking, tv, and have a hard time dealing with more than two people at a time.  I wake up on sirens, barking dogs, birds.  I&#039;m now 50 twice divorced and unemployed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Male with no problem driving, but can&#8217;t think or drive with music, talking, tv, and have a hard time dealing with more than two people at a time.  I wake up on sirens, barking dogs, birds.  I&#8217;m now 50 twice divorced and unemployed.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://www.journeyswithautism.com/2009/05/06/every-aspie-is-a-working-aspie/comment-page-1/#comment-46614</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 12:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susanne, isn&#039;t it great when we realize why things feel so difficult, and that we&#039;re not alone? What a relief!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susanne, isn&#8217;t it great when we realize why things feel so difficult, and that we&#8217;re not alone? What a relief!</p>
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		<title>By: Susanne Liley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susanne Liley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 10:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never had a license and my family keeps insisting that it&#039;s not as hard as it seems and that I&#039;d get used to it once I try. Never mind the fact that I cannot remember one street from another, or where places are actually located and I have lived in this town for 16 years! The three times I gathered enough courage to try, Hubby took me out late at night to drive through a large parking lot. Once I had driven around a bit he was more than relieved when I let him back into the driver&#039;s seat. I get so nervous that I&#039;d endanger everyone else on the road and find it better to let other people drive who are confidant in their driving skills.

It still seems so strange to me to realize that I was right about myself for so many years, but I thought I was just being lazy. Now I&#039;m realizing how difficult it is to even do simple things, depending on what&#039;s required of me. My family thought I was being purposely difficult when I told them if they wanted to plan any family activities I have to have 2 weeks notice, and then be reminded 3 days before and the day before or I wouldn&#039;t be able to come (my memory is really bad about stuff like that.) I&#039;d spend most of that time trying to pep talk myself and build up my reserve tolerance levels and trying not to completely freak out about the overload that ALWAYS goes along with seeing my family. Even just the other day Hubby was getting frustrated at my mother and commented to me &quot;Doesn&#039;t she realize that if you do major projects (shopping, yard work, etc.) one day that you need to take the next off?&quot; It made me feel really good that he recognizes when I&#039;m hitting overload, apparently even before I did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never had a license and my family keeps insisting that it&#8217;s not as hard as it seems and that I&#8217;d get used to it once I try. Never mind the fact that I cannot remember one street from another, or where places are actually located and I have lived in this town for 16 years! The three times I gathered enough courage to try, Hubby took me out late at night to drive through a large parking lot. Once I had driven around a bit he was more than relieved when I let him back into the driver&#8217;s seat. I get so nervous that I&#8217;d endanger everyone else on the road and find it better to let other people drive who are confidant in their driving skills.</p>
<p>It still seems so strange to me to realize that I was right about myself for so many years, but I thought I was just being lazy. Now I&#8217;m realizing how difficult it is to even do simple things, depending on what&#8217;s required of me. My family thought I was being purposely difficult when I told them if they wanted to plan any family activities I have to have 2 weeks notice, and then be reminded 3 days before and the day before or I wouldn&#8217;t be able to come (my memory is really bad about stuff like that.) I&#8217;d spend most of that time trying to pep talk myself and build up my reserve tolerance levels and trying not to completely freak out about the overload that ALWAYS goes along with seeing my family. Even just the other day Hubby was getting frustrated at my mother and commented to me &#8220;Doesn&#8217;t she realize that if you do major projects (shopping, yard work, etc.) one day that you need to take the next off?&#8221; It made me feel really good that he recognizes when I&#8217;m hitting overload, apparently even before I did.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 17:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know what you mean about feeling better and then thinking you can do more. In my mind, I can see exactly what to do, but my body just can&#039;t do it anymore, no matter how much exercise I get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know what you mean about feeling better and then thinking you can do more. In my mind, I can see exactly what to do, but my body just can&#8217;t do it anymore, no matter how much exercise I get.</p>
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		<title>By: LizzieK8</title>
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		<dc:creator>LizzieK8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 16:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said.  I feel better hearing you discuss the limits to how much any human being can do.    I&#039;ve recently gone into a health regime and feel physically, and somewhat mentally, better than I have in years.  Immediately I think, &quot;I should get a job.&quot;  When I was 30 lbs heavier, didn&#039;t move much, I didn&#039;t think about getting a job and all it entails.  Now I do, and it&#039;s somewhat harder to keep reminding myself that if I get a job (unless, of course, I could find that all too perfect job) it&#039;ll end badly.  I won&#039;t feel good for long as all the energy I have from loosing weight and exercise will be siphoned off by trying to pass.  Then I start acting like myself and then I won&#039;t have a job.

In some ways it was easier being a lump....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said.  I feel better hearing you discuss the limits to how much any human being can do.    I&#8217;ve recently gone into a health regime and feel physically, and somewhat mentally, better than I have in years.  Immediately I think, &#8220;I should get a job.&#8221;  When I was 30 lbs heavier, didn&#8217;t move much, I didn&#8217;t think about getting a job and all it entails.  Now I do, and it&#8217;s somewhat harder to keep reminding myself that if I get a job (unless, of course, I could find that all too perfect job) it&#8217;ll end badly.  I won&#8217;t feel good for long as all the energy I have from loosing weight and exercise will be siphoned off by trying to pass.  Then I start acting like myself and then I won&#8217;t have a job.</p>
<p>In some ways it was easier being a lump&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Saja</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 19:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got my driver&#039;s license at 16 like everyone else, and drove for years without issue. Then we moved to Holland, where the rules are somewhat different, and there are bicyclists everywhere, and it was like learning to drive all over again...I was exhausted and on the verge of a nervous breakdown after every trip. (And this was before I remotely knew I had AS.)

After a year in Holland, I had to take a test to get my Dutch license. I failed it. At the time I was livid (did something wrong on two-lane rotundas, which my driving instructor should have taught me), but ever since, I&#039;ve been secretly thankful. So glad I no longer have to drive. Friends and family are always urging me to go get my license, but NO WAY. 

I am so blown away by your posts and many of the comments, which so perfectly describe me, too. I am especially grateful for the ones offering an explanation for why things I used to be able to do easily are now so hard, and why I am at an impasse, at 42, in which I can either decide to drop &quot;passing&quot; in a big way, or die--literally. I cannot continue to live the rest of my life the way I&#039;ve lived it up to this point, rewarding as that has been. I did what I most craved as an awkward little girl: I learned how to fit in with the rest of the world. I&#039;m socially adept. But the cost; oh, the cost. There&#039;s nothing left over for the real me, the inner me. And that *has* to change, to save my life. Literally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got my driver&#8217;s license at 16 like everyone else, and drove for years without issue. Then we moved to Holland, where the rules are somewhat different, and there are bicyclists everywhere, and it was like learning to drive all over again&#8230;I was exhausted and on the verge of a nervous breakdown after every trip. (And this was before I remotely knew I had AS.)</p>
<p>After a year in Holland, I had to take a test to get my Dutch license. I failed it. At the time I was livid (did something wrong on two-lane rotundas, which my driving instructor should have taught me), but ever since, I&#8217;ve been secretly thankful. So glad I no longer have to drive. Friends and family are always urging me to go get my license, but NO WAY. </p>
<p>I am so blown away by your posts and many of the comments, which so perfectly describe me, too. I am especially grateful for the ones offering an explanation for why things I used to be able to do easily are now so hard, and why I am at an impasse, at 42, in which I can either decide to drop &#8220;passing&#8221; in a big way, or die&#8211;literally. I cannot continue to live the rest of my life the way I&#8217;ve lived it up to this point, rewarding as that has been. I did what I most craved as an awkward little girl: I learned how to fit in with the rest of the world. I&#8217;m socially adept. But the cost; oh, the cost. There&#8217;s nothing left over for the real me, the inner me. And that *has* to change, to save my life. Literally.</p>
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		<title>By: Stat Mama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stat Mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 21:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome post.  

Driving is an escape for me.  The kids are restrained in car seats, and I can plug in my iPod and listen to whatever flows with my mood.  It calms me enough that I can focus fine on driving.  Still, I know what you mean, and I definitely experience my own resistance to certain things.  Shopping, or being in any noisy and crowded situation, is an absolute sensory nightmare.  I can only focus on select things at a time, and I am always afraid of screwing something up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome post.  </p>
<p>Driving is an escape for me.  The kids are restrained in car seats, and I can plug in my iPod and listen to whatever flows with my mood.  It calms me enough that I can focus fine on driving.  Still, I know what you mean, and I definitely experience my own resistance to certain things.  Shopping, or being in any noisy and crowded situation, is an absolute sensory nightmare.  I can only focus on select things at a time, and I am always afraid of screwing something up.</p>
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		<title>By: millie</title>
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		<dc:creator>millie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 18:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so good to read this. 
I learned to drive at 40. I am now 46 and i have been on my provisional license for nearly 7 years. the max is 3 years in this country but with usual executively dysfunctional &quot;flair&quot;  I continue on with my provisional. 

I am a lousy driver,a nd because of balance and vestibular issues i lean into the centre of the car and drive with my body on a complete slant so my head is aligned with the centre of the car, just below the rear-view vision mirror.

I am also feeling incredible relief around a cessation of this old adherence to an ideal of &quot;normality.&quot;  i never achieved it in any way, but my head was filled with self-expectations of somehow taking on a normal life with a normal load like other people. 

It&#039;s been revelatory to go to an ASD specialist and to start carving a life suited to ME. i am actually starting to feel good,and like Rachel - hello my friend - I am starting to understand it is not just ok but VITAL i say no to the kinds of things other people take in their stride.
My whole household/family is currently being educated about my ASD and we are all learning to live with it and accept it, rather than fight it and wrestle with it and berate it, which is what i and others did for years in order to IMPROVE me to a state of normality! 

Yesterday i did my usual Friday thing where i see some people. i do this in a very structured manner once a week. i come home completely exhausted from interacting with people for two hours. On arrival home, I now i factor in rest time after any out and about stuff in the world. Just down time with diaphragmatic breathing, some stretching and quiet. It makes such a difference. In the past, i would battle on and feel as if I had a cacophany of clattering sounds and white shards of mirror in my brain and i would persist with home life and have a huge meltdown with throwing things and screaming and terrible shame and guilt afterwards. I would scream and flap my hands about my head. I would frighten my son. 
all that is changing. I am getting a bit of peace here and there. it is new, strange and belatedly welcomed in my life. It is a gift for me and those around me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so good to read this.<br />
I learned to drive at 40. I am now 46 and i have been on my provisional license for nearly 7 years. the max is 3 years in this country but with usual executively dysfunctional &#8220;flair&#8221;  I continue on with my provisional. </p>
<p>I am a lousy driver,a nd because of balance and vestibular issues i lean into the centre of the car and drive with my body on a complete slant so my head is aligned with the centre of the car, just below the rear-view vision mirror.</p>
<p>I am also feeling incredible relief around a cessation of this old adherence to an ideal of &#8220;normality.&#8221;  i never achieved it in any way, but my head was filled with self-expectations of somehow taking on a normal life with a normal load like other people. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s been revelatory to go to an ASD specialist and to start carving a life suited to ME. i am actually starting to feel good,and like Rachel &#8211; hello my friend &#8211; I am starting to understand it is not just ok but VITAL i say no to the kinds of things other people take in their stride.<br />
My whole household/family is currently being educated about my ASD and we are all learning to live with it and accept it, rather than fight it and wrestle with it and berate it, which is what i and others did for years in order to IMPROVE me to a state of normality! </p>
<p>Yesterday i did my usual Friday thing where i see some people. i do this in a very structured manner once a week. i come home completely exhausted from interacting with people for two hours. On arrival home, I now i factor in rest time after any out and about stuff in the world. Just down time with diaphragmatic breathing, some stretching and quiet. It makes such a difference. In the past, i would battle on and feel as if I had a cacophany of clattering sounds and white shards of mirror in my brain and i would persist with home life and have a huge meltdown with throwing things and screaming and terrible shame and guilt afterwards. I would scream and flap my hands about my head. I would frighten my son.<br />
all that is changing. I am getting a bit of peace here and there. it is new, strange and belatedly welcomed in my life. It is a gift for me and those around me.</p>
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		<title>By: John Dale Lyons</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Dale Lyons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 21:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no problem driving, but shopping spazzes me out.  The music, the bright lights, the details, the screaming kids, the crowds,  the coupons, the snotty cashiers....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no problem driving, but shopping spazzes me out.  The music, the bright lights, the details, the screaming kids, the crowds,  the coupons, the snotty cashiers&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 12:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m only 39, but have found the same thing: that i&#039;ve been using up so much energy trying to pass, that i have very little left over nowadays, and sometimes i dread what the future holds in this respect. i hate having to tell my partner that i don&#039;t have any more energy to be out in public sometimes.
(i don&#039;t have any problems driving, but i don&#039;t do it regularly.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m only 39, but have found the same thing: that i&#8217;ve been using up so much energy trying to pass, that i have very little left over nowadays, and sometimes i dread what the future holds in this respect. i hate having to tell my partner that i don&#8217;t have any more energy to be out in public sometimes.<br />
(i don&#8217;t have any problems driving, but i don&#8217;t do it regularly.)</p>
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