When I first began writing this critique, I tried to take the EQ test, and I found myself so stymied by it that I gave up. As a person who arrives at the “big picture” by putting together all the details, I find it maddening to be asked to respond to statements that are completely out of context. How I am to respond to a statement like “I don’t tend to find social situations confusing”? My mind visualizes a great number of social situations, and questions like the following arise:
What social situations?
How many people are there?
Are they all talking at once, or one at a time?
Do I know them?
Do I feel safe with them?
Do they know that I need extra time to respond?
Is there ambient noise?
Are people only engaging in small talk, or does the gathering have a focus?
Are there mostly autistic people or non-autistic people there?
How far did I need to travel to get to the gathering?
How tired am I?
How long does the gathering go on?
How much clutter is there in the room?
How many moving visuals are involved?
Will I have an opportunity to take breaks?
Will other people understand my need to take breaks?
If I get tired of talking, will people communicate with me using my text-to-text device?
It’s impossible for me to take all of the possible variations of a social situation implied by these questions and average them out in order to arrive at an answer. If you have a misunderstood disability like autism that makes you acutely sensitive to your environment, that requires you to work incredibly hard at things that other people take for granted, and that necessitates a great deal of time to rest and recharge, there are a huge number of variables that go into whether you end up feeling confused in a social situation. But the statements on the EQ test take none of that for granted; they come from the perspective of the able-bodied majority. There is no absolutely no perspective taking across neurological lines. None at all.
Moreover, the possible answers one can give to any of these questions are quite vague. For example, where does “Strongly agree” end and “Slightly agree” begin? To my mind, there is a long continuum between the two, and most of the varied social contexts that come to mind when I read each of the statements would require an answer all along that continuum. If, by some miracle, I could take all the varied social contexts in which I’ve found myself and average them out to arrive at something representative of my experiences, chances are that my response would end up somewhere on the continuum between “Strongly agree” and “Slightly agree” (or between “Strongly disagree” and “Slightly disagree”), and I’d have no way to provide the proper answer.
Of course, the EQ test was not put together with a view to the ways in which autistic people see, process, and experience the world, nor does it consider failures on the part of the non-autistic majority to understand our feelings, perspectives, and experiences to be failures of cognitive and emotional empathy. And so, compared to our non-autistic counterparts, we tend to score rather poorly on the test, with potentially devastating results in the real world.
For an idea of these results, let’s look again at Karla McLaren’s question to Professor Baron-Cohen, in which she delineates the difference between her impression of autistic people after reading work based on his theories, and the impression she came away with after meeting autistic people in person:
I have a question about the hypothesis that people on the Autism Spectrum lack empathy. went into a job supporting college-aged Spectrum students, and I read everything I could get my hands on — most of which follows your hypothesis about low empathy and incomplete or missing theory of mind. From all these books, I thought I knew the kind of people I’d meet, but I didn’t see a lack of empathy — rather, I saw people who were often overwhelmed by incoming stimuli and who had a very hard time organizing and understanding emotional cues. I’ve since worked with many Spectrum people, and I really think the theory is leading the data-gathering.
Is it possible that people on the autism spectrum actually have a normal range of capacity for empathy, but are often overwhelmed and unable to organize incoming emotional and social stimuli?
What I saw was that labeling Autism Spectrum people as unempathic obscures deeper inquiry. Sadly, that label also helps people treat Spectrum folks as aliens. The lack of understanding I saw “neurotypicals” show for Spectrum people made me ask: “Just who is the unempathic person here?”
Now, let us consider Professor Baron-Cohen’s response in the light of his own definitions of empathy. He begins by saying:
Certainly, the idea of portraying or treating people on the autistic spectrum as if they were aliens is abhorrent.
I’m certainly glad to hear that he feels this way, but of course, his response fails to take into account Karla’s suggestion that his own work has been at least partially responsible for this state of affairs. He says that treating autistics like aliens is abhorrent, and yet, he wrote in his 2001 paper Theory of mind in normal development and autism:
A theory of mind remains one of the quintessential abilities that makes us human (Whiten, 1993). By theory of mind we mean being able to infer the full range of mental states (beliefs, desires, intentions, imagination, emotions, etc.) that cause action. In brief, having a theory of mind is to be able to reflect on the contents of one’s own and other’s minds. Difficulty in understanding other minds is a core cognitive feature of autism spectrum conditions. The theory of mind difficulties seem to be universal among such individuals.” (Baron-Cohen, 3)
Is it any wonder that people who read words like these treat us like aliens? And is simply saying that such treatment is abhorrent an appropriate emotional response to being told that your work may be causing others to dehumanize autistic people? It rather misses the point, I think.
He goes on:
I also think your point that people on the autistic spectrum are ‘overwhelmed by incoming stimuli’ is very important, since the implication is that under the right conditions, people with autism would show no empathy difficulties at all, if the incoming stimuli were not overwhelming. On this view, any empathy difficulties might be secondary to difficulties due to the rate of information processing.
No, professor, not might. Replace the word might with are, and we might be getting somewhere. Using might betrays a spectacular failure of perspective taking. After all, what have so many autistics, parents, occupational therapists, and specialists been saying, so many times, in so many ways, for so many years? And why does Professor Baron-Cohen not have the cognitive empathy to understand that yes, definitely, difficulties in the rate of information processing — along with other factors, internal and external, having nothing to do with empathy at all — account for why we have difficulties with conventional expressions of empathy in real time? Could it be that, like us, he has difficulty understanding experiences different from his own?
And why, oh why, does this line of thought appear in a Q&A session in Google+, and not in his latest book The Science of Evil (known in the UK as Zero Degrees of Empathy), in which he insists that autistic people are on the zero end of the empathy scale? Given that the quality of life for so many millions of people is potentially at stake, wouldn’t a book on the subject of empathy be an “appropriate” place to speak to the issue in a nuanced way?
The professor continues:
I have some sympathy for this view, because I have met many adults with Asperger Syndrome who can cope with one-to-one relationships and are very caring within these, and only find it difficult when they have to process information in fast-changing social groups. Equally, I have met many adults with Asperger Syndrome who can display their excellent empathy when they have the “luxury” of considering all the facts “off-line”, that is, when there is less time pressure creating demands to respond in real time.
Anyone else notice the sleight-of-hand here? Karla asked about people on the spectrum — not just people with Asperger’s. Personally, I don’t find it an appropriate emotional response to turn the conversation toward a subgroup of a subgroup, when the question was about all autistic people, and when Karla was expressing her concerns about the dehumanization of all autistic people.
As for his comment that people with Asperger’s Syndrome can “display their excellent empathy when they have the ‘luxury’ of considering all the facts ‘off-line,’” using the word “luxury” here, even in quotes, is highly prejudicial. It implies that we are asking for some sort of special treatment when we need the time and the space to understand the intensity of our experiences. It’s not a luxury to process the facts off-line; because of the rush of sensory and emotional stimuli, it is a physical necessity. For the professor to call it a “luxury” is like calling a wheelchair a luxury for someone who can’t walk. It derives from an inability to put himself in the shoes of autistic people and understand the ways in which we experience the world
Professor Baron-Cohen concludes his answer with the following:
These ideas also suggest new lines of research that the autism research community could follow up.
We’re suffering out here, every day, from the lack-of-empathy trope, and his response is that perhaps, someday, the researchers need to follow up? From where I sit, that response is not emotionally appropriate. It’s not even close.
After all, we’re not just research subjects. We’re not just fascinating objects of study. We’re human beings who suffer from assaults on our humanity.
Certainly, we deserve a more empathetic response.
© 2011 by Rachel Cohen-Rottenberg





Once again, very good analysis Rachel. Re the ‘statements out of context’ you mention in the first paragraph, I have often found this in various ASD or related tests. Take the 50-question Autism Test (again by Baron-Cohen i think) for example. There’s a question on ‘do you like fiction’, or words to that effect. Now, i always find that too broad a question. Which fiction? ‘General’ fiction, or ‘chick lit’? I’d have to answer no. Sci-fi, fantasy or murder mysteries, i’d say yes. And so on. So i end up humming and ha-ing, and finally marking somewhere in the middle, which isn’t really an answer at all. The rest of the tests are just as challenging to this detail/specific-orientated aspie.
Overall, i find it alarming and dangerous, that Baron-Cohen says we are ‘less than human’. It makes me feel very afraid.
I agree: the lack of specificity in the answers to the test is very troubling. To my mind, it makes the test questionable as a scientific measure.
Like you, I am very alarmed when I read anything that says we’re lacking an essential quality of being human. There’s a momentous failure of empathy on the part of someone who would even imply such a thing, and the potential consequences of that failure are somewhat more profound than, say, than telling someone you don’t like his haircut, or not being sure what to say in a social situation.
Hiya! I’m glad my questions for Baron-Cohen have been useful. We empaths have to stand together in this world! Especially when the theories about some of us are, frankly, crap.
Last year, researcher Ilan Dinstein tested the mirror neurons of people on the Spectrum, and found their responses to be normal (of course, Marco Iacobini disagreed).
I wrote a short post about it here: http://karlamclaren.com/more-on-autism-and-mirror-neurons-oh-and-hah
My friend Leo sent me this link to a study that questions the mirror neuron theory, because it looks as if people are attaching all sort of qualities to these neurons that haven’t yet been confirmed at all. http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1162/jocn.2009.21189
Karla, thanks for the links — and thanks for standing with us!
If you’re interested, the brilliant Anne Corwin (a fellow autistic blogger) wrote an excellent critique of the mirror neurons theory at:
http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/1726/
Blessings,
Rachel
Anne does a great job of critiquing something that even I was taking for granted (the existence and purpose of mirror neurons).
Thanks to Anne and Rachel, now my brain is experiencing grey-matter envy….
Ben, if it’s any consolation, when I look at your paintings, I experience cool-visual-art envy.
Hi Rachel,
There’s a teleclass this week on autism you or your audience may be interested it. Dr. Shelby-Lane and Dr. Flynn will be discussing the issue – http://conversationswithdrshelbylane.com/
All the best,
Lisa
They say the winner writes the history books. In the case of autism it is the so called normal people who do it define the scope of disability.
Remember, it is these same people who made the determination that, although autism is a neurological disorder that includes a spectrum of possible symptoms, it is treated as a behavioral problem by educators rather than medical doctors.
Never once is the fact that many of the “different” and “quirky” behaviors may actually be nothing more than adaptive coping mechanisms used by those with autism to function with some degree of consistency and confidence in routine tasks that the NT people take for granted.
The suggested and insurance approved treatments start with ABA and degrade from there. The assessment “tests” are geared to generate a predetermined outcome and conclusion. A self fulfilling diagnosis used by the NT world to justify framing, reframing, manipulation, gas lighting and brain washing. Meanwhile, the folks with autism are faced with additional pressures to conform to the herd. Because of the mob rule mentality that dominates the culture many with autism are unable to conform and still function day to day, become suicidal.
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I think your analysis was incredibly fair, Rachel. But I have throw out there that it doesn’t only apply to this series of questions. It pretty much applies to almost every battery of testing that I’ve ever had to complete for my daughter. And as I’ve learned more and more, it honestly gets harder to give anything a clear cut yes or no. I find myself saying, even in regards to myself, “well it depends”. That starts all the way from baby books and developmental milestones, to HELP Checklist, to Sensory Profiles, to MCHAT and CARS, to this…. That being said, I’ve find that thinking more in the ways you described – just to get her through her day – and taking things at her pace… give us more of a chance for successful outings and days in general.
You make a good point, Melissa; most testing relies upon generalizations, with very little room for nuance.
I agree that the questions are terrible. When I first took the AQ, I did not understand most of the questions and scored fairly low because I decided that the ambiguous questions meant something other than what they did, or based on my own beliefs about myself – and I had just had a fairly social week and had been forcibly reminded of my “vulnerability” to other people’s emotions.
The empathy quiz is no better, but I had a better understanding of how those kinds of questions worked by the time I took it the first time – I don’t think my score reflects much more than “My answers are biased toward a low EQ score.” I don’t think an EQ score represents anything “real” or meaningful about people. Even when I pick what I think is my “worst case” for each question that has too many possible answers (like you list).
So I score a 16 on the EQ, but some of my friends tell me one thing they like about me is how much I care about people. How does Baron-Cohen’s model account for this? He’d probably say I have a mild case, but this kind of caring is something I see expressed by a lot of people on the spectrum – both more or less severe than I am, although not everyone on the spectrum, obviously – it’s not unique to me, and Simon Baron-Cohen can’t realistically judge how mild or severe my symptoms are on the basis that I do care about people, you know?
Overall, I feel Baron-Cohen’s science is dodgy as hell. It utterly fails at modeling empathy or the lack of it.
Much of the problem with the EQ test — aside from its biases, that is — derives from that fact that the vast majority of the questions have to do with cognitive rather than emotional/affective empathy. And of course, the ones having to do with emotional/affective empathy are riddled with problems.
It’s one thing for SBC to be challenged by autistics. It’s quite another for him to be challenged by other scientists. Is there anyone challenging him, in the scientific community? (I don’t like his cousin’s movies, either).
Yes, there are other challenges to his work, such as Morton Ann Gernsbacher’s research and writing, which can be found at:
http://psych.wisc.edu/lang/autism-research.html
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I hate the vagueness of the EQ questions. I can go to a semi-crowded theme park (sometimes) and tune out everyone around me, happily in my own little world. I can NOT go to an almost empty restaurant and carry on a conversation if one person nearby is speaking loudly enough for me to hear every word. It’s all subjective and we all react differently to different situations. I can enjoy loud music of my own choosing, but an almost imperceptible tapping or dripping sound can drive me out of my mind.
In general, I think generalizations are useless.
I have just the same complexity of response that you have, Tricia. The problem with these simple tests is that much of that complexity is lost.